Showing posts with label writing for Children and Young Adults. Show all posts
Showing posts with label writing for Children and Young Adults. Show all posts

Wednesday, April 21, 2010

A Giveaway for lovers of Children's Books ...




Over at the new ROR blog, the lovely (award winning) Kate Forsyth has done a post about how she finds the right voice to write for children.

So if write for children, or are just curious, drop by the new ROR blog.

Kate is also giving away two copies of her new book, 'The Wildkin's Curse'.

Sunday, April 18, 2010

A Moving Experience!


ROR is moving to a wordpress site. So we can:

  • have pages behind the blog
  • where we can give away award stories
  • and spread out

Like Albert here, we've packed our bags and shifted across to:

http://ripping-ozzie-reads.com/

This site will be closed down soon.

But don't worry, there's going to be one more post here to let you know when award winning Kate Forsyth will do a post on the new blog ROR site.

She'll be talking about writing for children and young adults and there'll be a give away of her new book. So if you are a children's writer, or you are thinking of writing for children or young adults, then slip over and say Hi!

Monday, August 24, 2009

First Book Sale

The ROR authors are going to do a series of posts on First Book Sales and later, Career Planning.

I thought I'd get the ball rolling with my First Book Sale. It was a children's book, sold to Scholastic from the slush pile. How did this happen?

I saw a children's short story competition and was inspired to write a story and enter it. The story didn't win, didn't even place, but I liked it. Shortly after this, my children's school hosted a Book Week. I went along and looked over the books. Among them, I found one that was published by Scholastic, aimed at the same age group as my story. I did a quick word count on one page and calculated the number of words per chapter plus the number of words in the whole book.

Then I went home and expanded the story, incorporating a whole new twist and sent it off to Scholastic. I had no idea how hard it was to sell from the slush pile. Luckily, I had chosen a topical game that lots of kids were playing and the writing style was 'fresh and accessible' as a multi published writer later told me.

Scholastic accepted the book, changed the title to 'Capped' and that was my first sale!

The moral of the story? Persistence pays off. Be ready to learn your craft and keep working on your story or book. Do your research and aim for a particular market.

Thursday, July 30, 2009

Critiquing 101


We've had a request from Sal asking how we structure our critiquing sessions at ROR.

I think one of the joys of ROR is that we are all in it for the love of the genre and the love of the craft of writing . We know that if someone makes a comment, it is because they genuinely want to help us improve our work.

ROR was begun by Marianne de Pierres and myself after running VISION writers group for several years. So we had practical experienced of what worked when it came to critiquing.

We started the VISION group from scratch. For the first year we set a craft exercise each month. eg. Great Opening Lines. The writers went away, looked at their favourite authors' books, analysed what made a great opening line and wrote their own. Then they came to the meeting and read them out and we critiqued these. We asked, would we keep reading? Did it set up the story? etc (When I did a workshop with the Central Highlands Writing group on how to set up a writers' group, I prepared a year of writing exercises for them, and gave them this along with the Critque Rules).

Each VISION meeting we had a different Chairperson, who ran the meeting. (We gave people the chance to get to know the rules before asking them to be Chair).

Critiquing Rules:

1. Bring in enough printed copies to share one between 2 or circulate via email and people print their own.

(Why not have the writer read from their copy? Because your story is not meant to be read aloud, unless it is written for this purpose. So it needs to be read in someone's head. Also, having a printed copy, means your fellow writers can circle things and make notes. This is useful when they return your copies to you).

2. Critique the Work not the Person.

3. If a Writing Craft Exercise has been set critique the purpose of the exercise first, before you start on other things.

4. The person being critiqued is not allowed to say anything until the end. (You won't be there, standing behind the editor as they read your manuscript, able to say, But I really meant ...).

5. Begin by saying something good. (If others have gone ahead and you agree with them, say so and move on to something new) Tell the writer what worked for you, then tell them what didn't and why. Maybe make suggestions as to how you think the story could be tweaked. Finish with something positive. (We set out to make VISION a 'writing craft dedicated' but nurturing experience for everyone and I think we achieved this).

6. Remember, the input you get is valuable, take it on b0ard and use what you can but, ultimately, you have vision for your book/story.

So that was VISION. After we did writing craft exercises we moved on to short stories. We had 2 hours and would get through 2 - 3 stories, depending on length.

Length became an issue for Marianne and I. We felt we had pushed ourselves as far as we could with this format and we wanted to polish or novel length work. This was why we started ROR.

The Critique sessions at ROR are based on how we ran the short story critiquing sessions at VISION.

One person is nominated Chair for that session. The person being critiqued is not allowed to speak, except to answer a direct question, no elaborating. This person usually takes notes and the others will have written up a report on the manuscript. Because it is an entire novel there are many different facets to critique. For the first few RORs we had a template that we worked from to be sure we covered everything. This is a rough example.

Novel Length Critique

Overview (How we felt the book worked, marketability etc)

Tone and/or age appropriate (eg. age --if the book is for children 11-14, tone -- if the tone is right for the subgenre)

Structure (look at establishing the problem and characters in the first chapters, narrative pacing, satisfying resolution).

View Point (Look at any problems with VP. This is usually a beginning writer's problem, but sometimes an established writer will need to add or remove a VP to create narrative tension).

Charactersiation (Which characters are working, which ones aren't. What are their character arcs? What do they learn in the course of the book. Internal conflict, External conflict).

Logic Flaws in World Builiding and Plot (These two are tied in because we're writing spec fic. Even an Urban Fantasy is going to have world building because it is our world, one step removed. A flaw in world building will throw the reader out of the story).

Dialogue (Is it appropriate for the age/education of the characters)

Setting/visuals (Does ther eader feel as if they are really there? Can they see the place? Is it rich and inventive, or derivative?).

General, page by page comments.

Looking back at all this, I realise that I could write a post on each of these topics and still not do them justice.

At ROR each of us would have our say and then we'd break into general discussion, getting all enthusiastic and excited about the book. The person whose book had been critiqued would come away, their head spinning with ideas and a new perspective.

As we've been doing ROR since 2001 and we know each other well, we don't use quite so structured a critique now but it is a good starting place.

I hope this has helped you, Sal, and anyone else who is interested in improving their writing craft. If there are any areas you'd like me to elaborate on, let me know. I'm a nerd who loves the writing craft. I could talk about it for hours and bore everyone silly. It's lucky I have writing friends who share the same passion!

Sunday, June 21, 2009

Reverse Sexism

Dave Luckett's eminently readable, award winning YA Tenabran trilogy.

Dave's books have been shortlisted for four Aurealis Awards, he won an Aurealis Best Fantasy novel, A Dark Winter. His books have been shortlisted twice for the Western Australia Premier's Books Award and he won with Rihanna and the Wild Magic, plus his short story won a Tin Duck (WA SF award).

Today Dave talks about male writers and female characters ...


I had a female protagonist in five of my published books, and it surprised me that I was sometimes praised simply for having one, as if it mattered, and then because I had those characters think for themselves and consciously reflect on their positions, as if that were a little odd. I don't understand what's odd about it.

I used female protagonists only and solely because that's what the story needed. I suppose it's possible that other writers might use female (or male) protagonists for some other reason. I couldn't say, but that would seem odd to me.

On the other hand, I have heard it said that it is presumptuous of male writers to attempt a female protagonist, though I must admit, not vice-versa. Perhaps so.

What do you think?